“ On social media , I ’ll see people are like , ‘ Why did n’t they couple this mortal and this person ? ’ And often , I ’ve tried , and they just would n’t do it with each other . ”

As I’m sure you know, Variety has a long-running video series calledActors on Actors. In each episode, two performers come together for an extended conversation about their latest projects ahead of the TV and film award seasons.

Since its first season in 2014, the series has brought us some pretty iconic pairings, fromCillian Murphy and Margot RobbietoRobert Pattinson and Jennifer Lopez, which remain among the most-watched episodes.

However, there have also been a few pairings over the years that have left viewers scratching their heads for the wrong reasons. The latest instance wasChloë Sevigny and Kim Kardashian, who teamed up for an episode in the 20th season earlier this month.

Appearing on the June 14 episode ofCitizen McCainwith Meghan McCain, the Variety boss was asked if he was “surprised” by the “robust response” to Kim and Chloë’s episode. In response, he fully explained how the pairings come to be — revealing it isn’t always so simple to get the duos you want.

Talking specifically about Chloë and Kim, Ramin said they weren’t initially “supposed to pair.”

Notably, Ramin directly refuted speculation that Chloë was in any way offended by the pairing, revealing instead that she was actually “really excited” to chat with Kim.

There you have it! Case closed. You can see Ramin’s full conversation ontheCitizen McCainpodcast here.

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